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1922

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Mao, Dun. Some thoughts on translating poetry [ID D38991].
Is the translation of foreign poetry 'possible' ?... Some say foreign poetry can be translated ; others say it can't ; some say there are things in foreign poetry which can be translated, and there are things which absolutely cannot, and what can be translated is only a makeshift, better than nothing but no more than that. When poetry has been translated, even if the translator is extremely careful and sticks closely to the source text, it can only be the 're-telling' of a poem, and cannot be seen as being the original…
The translation of foreign poetry can be a means of revitalizing our own poetry. When we glance through the literary history of other countries, we often see that the introduction of a translated text electrifies a country's literary history into new directions ; at least in the poetic arena, this must have an influence of this kind. From this viewpoint the translation of poetry is of great significance for the literary world, and has an even greater significance for a nation developing a new literature…
But it seems that sense-translation should also have its conditions : 1) It should not be an abridged translation… 2) The spirit of the original poem should be there… 3) It should conform to the style of the original poem. If the original poem is tragic and grand, it cannot ever be translated into light and pretty. Apart from this, rhyme and meter and so on are secondary issues, and may safely be ignored.
The second question concerning poetry translation is whether poetry should be translated into prose, or translated into the verse forms of one's own nation… A fixed metrical form can never entirely follow that of the original poem, and since it is only partial imitation, it would be better to ignore the form and do a prose translation…

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Mao, Dun  (Wuzhen, Zhejiang 1896-1981 Beijing) : Schriftsteller, Übersetzer

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Translation : History and Theory / Translator

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# Year Bibliographical Data Type / Abbreviation Linked Data
1 2004 Chan, Leo Tak-hung. Twentieth-century Chinese translation theory : modes, issues and debates. (Amsterdam : John Benjamins, 2004). (Benjamins translation library ; vol. 51).
Table of contents :
PART I
1. The traditional approach: Impressionistic theories 3
2. "Modern" theories of the 1920s and 30s 15
3. Theories from a postcolonial perspective 29
4. End of the century: The impact of "new theories" 43
References for Chapters 1-4 6o
PART II
A. Responses to Yan Fu 67
1. Yan Fu: "Preface to Tianyanlun (Evolution and ethics)" (1901)
Tr. C. Y. Hsu 69
2. Zheng Zhenduo: "How to translate literary texts" (1921)
Tr. Leo Chan 72
3. Bian Zhilin: "Literary translation and sensitivity to language" (1983)
Tr. Gilbert Fong 74
4. Ye Weilian: "Debunking claims of Xin, Da and Ya" (1994)
Tr. Ye Weilian 77
Notes to Articles 1-4 89
B. Spiritual resonance 91
5. Chen Xiying: "On translation" (1929)
Tr. Chapman Chen 93
6. Zeng Xubai: "Spirit and fluency in translation" (1929)
Tr. Chapman Chen 98
7. Fu Lei: "Preface to the retranslation of Pere Goriot" (1951)
Tr. May Wong 102
8. Qian Zhongshu: "The translations of Lin Shu" (1963)
Tr. George Kao 104
Notes to Articles 5-8 115
C. Art vs. science 121
9. Zhu Guangqian: "On translation" (1944)
Tr. Leo Chan 123
10. Fu Lei: "Fragments of my translation experience" (1957)
Tr. Leo Chan 126
11. Huang Xuanfan: "Review of Si Guo's Studies of Translation" (1974)
Tr. Matthew Leung 129
12. Huang Xuanfan: "Translation and linguistic knowledge" (1974)
Tr. Matthew Leung 134
13. Jin Di: "The debate of art vs. science" (1987)
Tr. Priscilla Yip 141
Notes to Articles 9-13 147
D. The language of translation 151
14. Qu Qiubai: "On translation - A letter to Lu Xun" (1931)
Tr. Yau Wai Ping 153
15. Lu Xun: "A reply to Qu Qiubai" (1931)
Tr. Leo Chan 158
16. Qu Qiubai: "Again on translation - A reply to Lu Xun" (1932)
Tr. Yau Wai Ping 162
17. Fu Lei: "Letter to Lin Yiliang on translation" (1951)
Tr. Sara Ho 168
18. Yu Guangzhong: "Translation and creative writing" (1969)
Tr. Leo Chan 173
Notes to Articles 14-18 175
E. Literal translation vs. sense-translation 179
19. Liang Shiqiu: "On Mr. Lu Xun's 'Stiff translation"' (1929)
Tr. Evangeline Almberg 181
20. Lu Xun: "'Stiff translation' and the class nature of literature" (1930)
Tr. Leo Chan 184
21. Ye Gongchao, "On translation and language reform" (1931)
Tr. Rachel Lung 188
22. Mao Dun: "Literal translation, smooth translation, and distorted
translation" (1934)
Tr. Leo Chan 192
23. Ai Siqi: "On translation" (1937)
Tr. John Lai 195
Notes to Articles 19-23 198
F. The untranslatability of poetry 201
24. Mao Dun: "Some thoughts on translating poetry" (1922)
Tr. Brian Holton 203
25. Cheng Fangwu: "On translating poetry" (1923)
Tr. May Wong 208
26. Bian Zhilin: "Translation and its positive/negative impact on
modern Chinese poetry" (1987)
Tr. Kellj Chan 211
27. Gu Zhengkun: "On multiple complementary norms and the
translation of poetry" (1990)
Tr. Julie Chiu 214
Notes to Articles 24-27 220
G. Translation theory for China 223
28. Dong Qiusi: "On building our translation theories" (1951)
Tr. Tan Zaixi 225
29. Luo Xinzhang: "Chinese translation theory, a system of its
own" (1984)
Tr. Tan Zaixi 230
30. Liu Miqing: "The basic paradigm of Chinese translation
theory" (1990)
Tr. Han Yang 236
31. Sun Zhili: "Some thoughts on building our nation's translation
theory" (1998)
Tr. Han Yang 240
32. Lin Zhang: "On theories in translation studies" (1998)
Tr. Leo Chan 244
Notes to Articles 28-32 246
H. Creativity and translation 249
33. Zheng Zhenduo: "Virgins and matchmakers" (1921)
Tr. Rachel Lung 251
34. Guo Moruo: "Letter to Zheng Zhenduo" (1921)
Tr. Rachel Lung 252
35. Mao Dun: "The 'matchmaker' and the 'virgin"' (1934)
Tr. Laurence Wong 254
36. Fang Ping: "Miscellaneous thoughts on translation" (1995)
Tr. Orlando Ho 257
37. Xu Yuanchong: "Verbal translation and literary translation" (1995)
Tr. Orlando Ho 261
38. Xu Jun and Yuan Xiaoyi: "For the sake of our common cause" (1995)
Tr. Orlando Ho 264
Notes to Articles 33-38 268
Index 271 S. 203-206. 		Publication / ChanL1
  • Source: Zheng, Zhenduo. How to translate literary texts.
    In : Chan, Leo Tak-hung. Twentieth-century Chinese translation theory : modes, issues and debates. (Amsterdam : John Benjamins, 2004). (ZheZ6, Publication)
  • Source: Zheng, Zhenduo. Virgins and matchmakers.
    In : Chan, Leo Tak-hung. Twentieth-century Chinese translation theory : modes, issues and debates. (Amsterdam : John Benjamins, 2004). (ZheZ7, Publication)
  • Source: Guo, Moruo. Letter to Zheng Zhenduo.
    In : Chan, Leo Tak-hung. Twentieth-century Chinese translation theory : modes, issues and debates. (Amsterdam : John Benjamins, 2004). (GuoM16, Publication)
  • Source: Mao, Dun. Some thoughts on translating poetry.
    In : Chan, Leo Tak-hung. Twentieth-century Chinese translation theory : modes, issues and debates. (Amsterdam : John Benjamins, 2004). (MaoD31, Publication)
  • Source: Cheng, Fangwu. On translating poetry.
    In : Chan, Leo Tak-hung. Twentieth-century Chinese translation theory : modes, issues and debates. (Amsterdam : John Benjamins, 2004). (ChenF1, Publication)
  • Source: Qu Qiubai. On translation : a letter to Lu Xun.
    In : Chan, Leo Tak-hung. Twentieth-century Chinese translation theory : modes, issues and debates. (Amsterdam : John Benjamins, 2004). (QuQ11, Publication)
  • Source: Lu, Xun. A reply to Qu Qiubai. (1931). In : Chan, Leo Tak-hung. Twentieth-century Chinese translation theory : modes, issues and debates. (Amsterdam : John Benjamins, 2004). (LuX217, Publication)
  • Source: Qu, Qiubai. Again on translation : a reply to Lu Xun.
    In : Chan, Leo Tak-hung. Twentieth-century Chinese translation theory : modes, issues and debates. (Amsterdam : John Benjamins, 2004). (QuQ12, Publication)
  • Source: Mao, Dun. Literal translation, smooth translation, and distorted translation.
    In : Chan, Leo Tak-hung. Twentieth-century Chinese translation theory : modes, issues and debates. (Amsterdam : John Benjamins, 2004). (MaoD30, Publication)
  • Source: Mao, Dun. The 'matchmaker' and the 'virgin'.
    In : Chan, Leo Tak-hung. Twentieth-century Chinese translation theory : modes, issues and debates. (Amsterdam : John Benjamins, 2004). (MaoD32, Publication)
  • Source: Ai, Siqi. On translation.
    In : Chan, Leo Tak-hung. Twentieth-century Chinese translation theory : modes, issues and debates. (Amsterdam : John Benjamins, 2004). (AiS1, Publication)
  • Source: Zhu, Guangqian. On translation.
    In : Chan, Leo Tak-hung. Twentieth-century Chinese translation theory : modes, issues and debates. (Amsterdam : John Benjamins, 2004). (ZhuG16, Publication)
  • Source: Fu, Lei. Fragments of my translation experience.
    In : Chan, Leo Tak-hung. Twentieth-century Chinese translation theory : modes, issues and debates. (Amsterdam : John Benjamins, 2004). (FuL1, Publication)
  • Source: Bian, Zhilin. Translation and its positive/negative impact on modern Chinese poetry.
    In : Chan, Leo Tak-hung. Twentieth-century Chinese translation theory : modes, issues and debates. (Amsterdam : John Benjamins, 2004). (BiaZ2, Publication)
  • Cited by: Asien-Orient-Institut Universität Zürich (AOI, Organisation)